News: Overkill’s Pay Day

Overkill may well have just sewn the seeds of their own demise...

Unlike the average Swede, Payday players are less content to be thoroughly cucked by a bunch of arseholes!

Sweden No!

A man’s word is his bond. Once that is broken what trust is there to be had? This may not be a particularly pressing concern for money-bags publishers like EA and Activision, who can simply buy their products some consumer mindshare – yet for little studios signed to little publishers this way of doing business is completely off the table. Little studios working on little games rely on good word of mouth to a large extent in order to raise consumer awareness about their product, or at least this is the case in instances where they are unable to sleep their way to positive coverage among the mainstream press.

Two such little games are Payday and Payday 2, both of which are bank heist themed cooperative multiplayer games, which found their way to success through attentive community support and good word of mouth. The games were developed by Swedish studio Overkill Software, a division of Starbreeze Studios, and were published by 505 Games – none of these industry players are particularly large entities with deep pockets, and so community and consumer goodwill was an absolute must. This seems to have worked a treat with the original Payday and it also worked very well for Payday 2, up to a point.

The contract between Overkill Software and 505 Games stipulated that they were to support the game until 2017. Supporting a game for three and a half years cannot be an overly cheap proposition, but this was a multiplayer-only game for which gamers paid full-price up front, and since release there has been $124 worth of paid DLC to sustain the studio. It would seem that this was not enough however, as this week Overkill irreparably… overkilled[?] their relationship with the Payday community by pumping the game full of all the worst kind of ‘gacha’ mechanics – like so much low-grade semen. This was done without any sort of warning or consultation.

Typically players would be rewarded for a successful heist with a swag of spoils designed to enhance their experience with the game. Now however, players suddenly found that many of the items that they would usually receive were replaced with locked safes containing randomised weapon skins [some of which conferred stat bonuses onto weapons]. The only way for these safes to be opened was to purchase drills, which can be had for $2.50 a pop. Making matters worse, the skins that these safes contained were not necessarily for any of the weapons that an individual owned, meaning that a player may well have to then purchase a DLC weapon pack in order for their initial purchase to be any good at all.

All this by itself is bad enough, while nothing out of the ordinary for this declining industry – however, the situation was made vastly worse by the comically vast breach of Overkill’s verbal contract with the Payday community. Before the release of the game they not only swore until blue in the face that the game would never feature microtransactions – they actually heaped scorn upon gamers for asking whether they would implement microtransactions. Just in case there was any question about just how unequivocal these pledges were, here is the game’s producer, Almir Listo, saying ahead of release that microtransactions will never be featured in the game:

The Steam page for PAYDAY 2 has been updated based on your feedback. We’ve made it clear that PAYDAY 2 will have no micro-transactions whatsoever (shame on you if you thought otherwise!) and we’ve made it more clear that the PAYDAY loot bag is part of the Career Criminal Edition as well.

And here is the game’s director, David Goldfarb, saying ahead of release that the game would never feature microtransactions:

No. No. God, I hope not. Never. No.

That was a fairly iron clad commitment that Overkill have completely reneged on. While Goldfarb has since left the studio, Listo still appears to be running things and shilling for the the newly implemented ‘gacha’ mechanics – so it is not as though the people who committed to the original strategy are not still in place.

In the wake of this fiasco the community has been in open revolt, and Payday 2 has been heavily review-bombed on any site that allows user feedback. After many days of disquiet Amir Listo eventually opened communication with the Payday community by way of a Reddit AMA, which went about as well as one might have expected. Listo did not use the opportunity to adopt a conciliatory approach in order to mend bridges, rather he seized the chance to shower his customers with brazen boasts of success, like so much unwanted bukake.

From an economical standpoint however, completely based on statistics, we can already see that the Black Market update is working as we intended. Right now, things are looking pretty great.

Listo then set about badmouthing the gaming sites that had reported on Overkill’s massive breach of faith with their customers, claiming that their articles were factually incorrect clickbait, and attempting to create the false narrative that all of the criticism was coming from lazy and incompetent journalist outsiders who had not played the game, and who were in fact harming the interests of the Payday 2 community:

There’s been a lot of articles written by a lot of people claiming a lot of things about us, our intentions and the effect this has on the community as a whole and the future of PayDay 2. It’s a bit hard to take some of these people serious when you know they don’t even play the game.

I think the problem here really is people in positions of power in media and elsewhere making uninformed, clickbait articles about things that matter a lot to a lot of people, instead of doing some serious legwork to get their facts straight.

The content of the articles does in fact matter to a lot of people, and the “clickbait” articles themselves were sourced directly from many of them – though of course this shameless weasel was not about to admit to that. The Reddit AMA went on to receive over 2,500 comments, and after all that it received precisely zero upvotes from the Reddit Payday community. Think about that – even Payday fanboys were not dumb enough to support such a blatant betrayal. The most popular thread [by an enormous margin] on r/PaydaytheHeist remains the resignation post of one of the board’s moderators, who quit in protest against what Overkill have done to the game. A studio is only as good as its word, and Overkill’s word is no good. They had best get a powerful publisher behind them for future releases, as one feels that the Payday community simply will not be there to do their marketing for them.

Get your underboob here, because you won't find it in Xenoblade Chronicles X!

Just like a pair of unfirm breasts, bad decisions are not worth supporting!

Nintendo Has Censored Xenoblade Chronicles X

For the second consecutive week it is one’s unenviable task to inform readers that Nindendo has once again taken a pair of shears to their own content – and who could blame the family-friendly company after worthless social justice warriors have done so much damage to the climate of our industry in their war against fanservice. That being said, while Nintendo’s actions are understandable, they are certainly not actions that one would ever support through direct patronage. The censorship in question that Nintendo has inflicted upon Xenoblade Chronicles X is going to sound really familiar to Lusipurr.com readers, which is to say that once again it is a case of a teenager in a bikini being censored.

The character, Lin, is fifteen years old, and, out of likely scores of optional clothes and armours available to her, she previously had access to two fanservice bikini costumes – one black and the other silver. These costumes have now been altered so that she is wearing other larger and less shapely bikini tops underneath the tiny-tiny ones, completely decimating the underboob that was previously on offer. Moreover, the bikini bottoms have been entirely replaced by a pair of boyish looking shorts, completely ruining the effect of the outfits. It is not yet known whether other female characters have received the same treatment, or whether it is solely Lin who has been censored due to her young age. Either way it is sad that it is once again relatively harmless fanservice that has found its way onto the chopping block, and all the more so since the lack of direct relevance to the plot means that far fewer people are willing to condemn this watering down of game content – with many openly praising the move!

One was already fairly unenthused towards Xenoblade Chronicles X, on account of it adopting a Monster Hunter-esque game structure, where one has to accept missions from a central hub, and then grind through mountains of sidequest busy-work in order to access the game’s scant few story missions. This however is the straw that broke the camel’s back. One will not be purchasing this game for Christmas, and will only acquire it second-hand on the cheap. This is not being done to spite Nintendo, but rather because one does not wish to support practices that are deleterious to the industry. Nintendo should look after the interests of gamers before coddling the shrill protestations of feminists who were never going to buy the game anyway.

The Xbone console likely weighs several dozen more pounds than this anthropomorphic personification of the brand.

Jump Out!

Microsoft: Tens of Millions of 360 Owners Are Going to Upgrade to the Xbone These Holidays

Sony had best just give up now, as the scant > fifteen million unit lead they have built up since the launch of the PS4 is about to be obliterated this holiday season by the tens of millions of Xbox 360 players who are just waiting to ‘jump in’ to the Xbone – or at least this is the fervent belief of the Xbox global marketing boss, Aaron Greenberg.

There’s tens of millions of Xbox 360 fans that are out there that are still playing on Xbox 360 and they’re waiting for the right time and the right reason to migrate over to Xbox One. Whether they’ve been waiting for the first true next-gen Halo with Halo 5 or if they’ve been waiting for solutions like backwards compatibility, we do expect to see a pretty massive migration this holiday of those fans.

Microsoft clearly expects to see a mass exodus from the 360 to the Bone this holiday season, but why? Do they have an ace up their sleeve? Are they planning on sending out a batch of emails to 360 users in order to inform them that it is time to upgrade?

I don’t think we’ve ever had a holiday like what we have this year where not only is Halo 5 coming, but we have Gears of War, we have Rare Replay, we have Forza 6, we have Rise of the Tomb Raider; just kind of a non-stop lineup of AAA exclusives titles in addition to an incredible lineup of big, third-party blockbusters like Call of Duty: Black Ops III and Fallout 4 and Star Wars Battlefront. So if you’re a gamer, you’ve never really seen a holiday lineup like this before.

Oh, it would appear that 360 owners are going to upgrade themselves to a Bone because of an utterly unprecedented holiday line-up including such fresh and new content as more Halo, more Forza, more Gears of War, and some multiplatform titles. But the fun does not stop there:

We’re going to be the only next-gen console delivering backwards compatibility, and we’re launching that on November 12, we’ll have over 100 games that basically come free of charge. If you own these titles, whether you have the disc sitting around or digitally, they’ll automatically show up in your games library and, in many cases, more than double or triple your available games to play on Xbox One. I think it’s a huge benefit.

Wow! Xbone owners will receive over one hundred games completely free of charge, but only if they own them already! What? One is properly impressed that Microsoft engineers were able to emulate the Xbox 360 on Xbone hardware, but Greenberg’s spruiking of this feature stretches the accomplishment to its tenuous breaking point! Anyway, we are only talking about compatibility for roughly 100 games out of a library of 952 – anyone who has ever owned a 360 will know how much of a crap shoot it is to find OG Xbox games that are compatible with 360 emulation, and this looks to be much the same situation. If Microsoft were planning to sell tens of millions of Xbones this holiday season on the strength of such meager features as limited backwards compatibility and a very familiar line-up of established franchises, then they may want to temper their expectations, or at least not hold their breath.

2000% triggered!

Diabolik Lovers almost certainly does what Nintendon’t!

Anime Spotlight: Diabolik Lovers – More, Blood

Diabolik Lovers returns for a second season with with Diabolik Lovers – More, Blood. The second series continues from where the first series left off in 2013, with the heroine, Komori Yui, being courted by a house full of sadistic vampires [six to be precise], who like nothing better than to perform cruel and perverse acts on her. The first series appears to have triggered the fuck out of the precious snowflakes on My Anime List, many of whom appear to hate the series with a passion – which probably means it is pretty good. If nothing else it likely provides a non-singing, non-dancing reverse-harem alternative to this season’s Dance With Devils, a mercy one is sure.

Diabolik Lovers – More, Blood began airing on the twenty-third of September, and is scheduled to continue through to the tenth of December. There are currently four episodes available for viewing, and new episodes are simulcast on Crunchyroll on Sundays at 8:15am PDT.

65 comments on “News: Overkill’s Pay Day”

  1. The music in Diabolik Lovers II is STRAIGHT out of Castlevania. Also, the visual references to Twilight are pretty obvious.

  2. I’m very upset over the Xenoblade censorship as I’ve made clear on twitter. I haven’t done business with Nintendo in years and in all likelihood, I will not be doing so in the future.

  3. Do you have any impartiality at all? Or is this site just a love in for your group of mates? The abuse the xbox receives is understandable from the viewpoints of single minded losers who will never criticise their beloved choices. I mean really boil it down, what is the reason for the constant insults and scorn? Is it just something to do? You talk about the xbone like it is a cheating ex wife!
    Lets be fair, the alternative choice is a console who’s biggest e3 news was a kickstarter! Not even an exclusive one. Uncharted, oo more uncharted.. Ermmmm oh yeah that’s it for the holidays! No decent customizable homepage, no reliable online services, no search or sense in the store and a controller that has a massive light pointing at your tv.
    I doubt you lot will reply in a constructive way but if at least one of you reads this and it rattles your bubble then great.

  4. @Yourworstnightmares: That must be why the Xbone is selling so well.

  5. 2000% TRIGGERED!! :D

    no reliable online services

    How about that Masterchief Collection, eh?

  6. Wanna play some Halo Master Chief Collection multiplayer? I can’t wait to experience that solid online service! XBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOX!

  7. This is the most helpful website I’ve seen in a while! Worth a click. I am sorry for being wrong about the Xbox, though. Thanks for the help.
    [Edited for clarity. -Lusi]

  8. They are even editing the commenters username! This is so cute. Why even have a public site, why not a private group. You’re right anyway, so I’m outta here.
    [Edited for clarity. -Lusi]

  9. I like when the same user (IP Address: 82.17.144.190) pretends to be multiple people. Quality!

    Three strikes, you’re out. Banned.

  10. Heh. For all of his whining about “impartiality”, he sure didn’t put any on display himself. At least SN backs his claims up. Keep up the great work!

    The assertion that the XBone’s holiday lineup is the “greatest ever” is completely laughable, for the stated reasons. Reasons that really should be common knowledge.

    Also, Almir Listo seems like a condescending prick.

  11. Thanks, mate. Yea, I couldn’t believe how far off the mark Greenberg’s shilling was.

  12. I’m no fan of any of the big three companies which dominate console gaming right now, but Sony is very clearly the best of a bad lot. Microsoft has shat the bed this generation and, despite overtures made to redress those faults, is being stomped for a reason. There’s only so much pointing backwards at the 360 will get you as a business proposition.

    Next generation, Microsoft will almost certainly move further into entertainment territory, more along the lines of Apple TV, where playing video games will be something the box ‘also does’, rather than the central purpose for its existence. Sony will lag behind that move and will produce another video game box that ‘also does’ entertainment. As for Nintendo, who even knows? It will be overpriced, undersupported, and maybe–finally–a bridge too far for even diehard Nintendo fans.

  13. wow, lusipurr.com was visited by a troll… SUCCESS! :D
    Can’t believe people defend the xbone with such hateful passion of reality.

  14. Awman, a troll. Don’t see a lot of those around here. Not an especially notable one either, from the looks of it.

  15. I have an Xbone. It’s a far inferior console to the PS4. There are things to enjoy about it, but everything it does right is something the PS4 does better. Pretty bad when a console crashes while using Netflix.

    If you’re wondering why I have one, it’s because of Halo. These days, it’s one of the few games that brings me and my friends together and it is deeply rooted into our gaming history. That being said, I haven’t bought Halo 5. Mostly because Master Chief Collection burned me so bad that I haven’t recovered yet. I’ll wait a few months.

  16. @LegendaryApple: “Pretty bad when a console crashes while using Netflix.”

    If the XBone is crashing whilst running Netflix, it’s truly an even bigger piece of shit than I imagined. This makes me feel even better about not bothering one iota about the console. Having divested itself of the few appealing moves made on the 360, the Xbone truly is the loser of this generation.

    But again, that doesn’t matter very much to Microsoft. They are rapidly losing interest in the video games market and want to stay ahead of the curve. The next big thing is ‘entertainment boxes’ a la Amazon TV and Apple TV, and the original plan for the Xbone had them posed to straddle Vidya and TV moreso than they currently do. If the next Microsoft GameBox isn’t entertainment- rather than game-focused, I will be very surprised. Expect to see lots of sports apps, TV channels, etc.

  17. Hi
    I also have an xbone and I love it. It has never crashed in the two years I’ve owned it.
    Unfortunately the launch was misguided ms have really turned it around and are making the console really games driven. This holiday there are so many exclusives I can’t afford to buy them all!
    The interface is getting an entirely new system next week so it runs faster etc these updates are way more than Sony has ever provided and with direct x12 on its way the xbone should come into it’s own.
    I don’t think it is fair to judge the console on one games performance. That was 343 not the xbox team. However if that is an ok judgement then perhaps we should all be slating steam and pc after the performance issues of arkham knight!
    Whatever platform you choose I think you should be well educated about all of them and I feel ms provides way more than Sony ever could. Free backwards combatabilith is fantastic meaning you can play the library you already have or pick up preowned games for dollars much cheaper that playstation network is!
    Also since I thought this side was pro gamergate and anti sjw a mush more intelligent discussion and no censorship should be here. If someone disagrees with you it doesn’t make them a troll!

  18. @DeathNoteFan: I suspect that you were sent here by the troll who was banned, or that you are the troll using an IP mask. Whatever the case, I am a generous and fair-minded person, so I am going to do something rather unusual and respond to your post in long form, right here in the comments, in the hope that it will help you. So, brace yourself for a wall of explanation.

    1. It has never crashed in the two years I’ve owned it.
    You should apparently consider yourself fortunate. Technical issues seem to be commonplace: of the fifteen or so people I know personally who own a launch Xbone, five of them now have Xbones that no longer read discs. This is by no means a statistical representation, but it more or less correlates with the people I know online as well (that is, about 1/3 of the people I know who have launch XBones now have problems with their XBone reading discs).

    2. with direct x12 on its way the xbone should come into it’s own.
    That’s not how console game development works. By the time Direct X12 can have any significant impact on development for the Xbone, developers will be developing games for the next console generation, not the current generation. Direct X12 will have a limited effect on development for the Xbone, if any at all. In any case, the impediment to Xbone development isn’t hardware or software at this point, it is audience.

    3. I don’t think it is fair to judge the console on one games performance. That was 343 not the xbox team.
    You misunderstand–we’re sledging two things at once: that Halo is the primary reason to own an Xbone (a game which is more or less definitively its multiplayer experience), and that multiplayer gaming is a reason to own an Xbone. Therefore, the joke is that Halo MCC is a combination of two fallacies: that one rather outplayed game can be reason for a $400 console purchase by itself, and that the whole purpose of such a game is something that doesn’t work anyway.

    I’m sure people play other multiplayer games on Xbone, and that they work just fine.

    4. I feel ms provides way more than Sony ever could.
    First, are you sure you mean what you are claiming–that Microsoft provides right now far more than Sony could ever be capable of providing? That’s obviously false.

    Setting that aside, you may feel that way, and you are entitled so to do (indeed, you are entitled to feel however you like about anything; feeling doesn’t make things so)–but many, many millions of people demonstrably disagree with you, including millions who owned XBox 360s. Instead of rushing to defend your purchase, you might want to ask why that is.

    I would observe that most of my staff members own XBones, that my staff members are by and large adults who have been playing games since the 1980s, and that none of them are rushing to defend the XBone as some massively superior value proposition to the PS4 (which, again, most of them own). Again, why might that be?

    The first answer is that being a console fanboy is childish. It is predicated on a notion that console ownership is a zero-sum game–which it is, if one is a child and must rely upon their parents’ generosity to buy them one (1) console and only one (1). Most serious gamer adults have the money to buy all the consoles, so we don’t have to try and make ourselves feel better about not owning the ‘other’ console.

    The second answer is that owning a console is not an ideological choice; it does not necessitate defending that purchase against just criticism; it is not connected to one’s identity so that a critique of the console should be taken as a critique of onself. I owned an Xbox 360 (three of them!) and spent years complaining about how badly it worked and how poorly Microsoft support dealt with me.

    Likewise, I own a Wii U, and that misbegotten console has come in for more sledging from me than any console in the history of this site. If I could haul the developing team into my living room and take a shit all over them, I would do so.

    Likewise (again), I own a PS4, a console which I have repeatedly said that (most of the time) I use only to watch Netflix, not play games–something of which Microsoft is obviously aware given their apparent intentions for their position in the market with respect to their XBox division.

    When someone on a website somewhere says that the PS3, 360, Wii, Wii U, Xbone, or PS4 suck, they are not attacking me even although I own all of those consoles. I do not need to rush to defend my purchase and claim that they are wrong so that I can feel better about the fact that I own something. What kind of a moron needs to do that?

    I would posit that the kind of moron who needs to do that is the kind of moron who buys a console not because it is a good proposition, but rather because they want to buy into an ideology which they are consequently necessitated to defend at all costs, as if it were a religion and not an electronic gadget that was sitting on a store shelf. This is what drives flame wars. And, I keep it off of the site for good reason. A bunch of ideological fanboys from both sides hurling abuse at each other is fine for IGN. Here, I can just turn on comment moderation and put a stop to it forever.

    5. Free backwards combatabilith is fantastic meaning you can play the library you already have
    No one ever said it wasn’t. But as an upgrade proposition your assertion has very little value. If XBox 360 owners want to play the library they already have, they can do so on their 360s without paying $400 to buy an Xbone. People who want to get into gaming don’t directly benefit from this, because they would have to buy those games in order to play them (and sales figures indicate that they are unlikely so to do).

    6. Also since I thought this side was pro gamergate and anti sjw
    You are misinformed. This site is pro-logical discourse. SJWs who want to present logical arguments are as welcome as GamerGate proponents who want to present logical arguments. The moment logic is tossed aside for ad hominems is the moment I let my staff off the leash and bring down the ban hammer.

    (I should also point out that this humor website is knowingly Lusipurr-oriented (hence the name), and that we can, have, and will shut people down simply for disagreeing with me (even–indeed, especially–when they are right). But this is something of which our readership is aware–it a persona which is the basis of the site; and it is something from which I am momentarily stepping away in order to address your comment without wearing my “Evil Supervillain who punishes all opposition” mask. The running joke is that I am unreasonable, intolerant, and virtually always wrong, and that I run a website which is more like a Soviet Union Gulag than a Silicon Valley Startup.)

    7. If someone disagrees with you it doesn’t make them a troll!
    You’re absolutely correct. But if someone posts repeatedly using different names in an attempt to make themselves appear more credible by literally supporting themselves, they are trolling and will be banned.

  19. Hi, thanks for responding. I neither know or am a troll I am a sometime lurker/reader and saw only the harshness of these comments here. To be fair maybe the author of the news article could explain why he writes with such anger! Especially as you think only morons attack consoles, but hey I digress.
    I am not jumping to any defence in fact I’m a little mad at Microsoft for scheduling the large system refresh on the week fallout 4 comes out! Also halo 4 and 5 are terrible games and no reason to jump and buy an xbone.
    Sales aren’t everything however and perhaps having the healthy competition is fantastic for all gamers and fans alike.
    It does seem you don’t play any AAA games or modern title preferring to hide behind obscure jrpgs and retro games. Your admission you only Netflix on your ps4 tells me that.
    I wish gaming was an ideology. Life would be much more fun. Perhaps we could settle this with some titanfall multiplayer? Or are you more Mario kart? Lol
    Saying people are salty or morons for giving their opinion of something they enjoy and play everyday hardly makes them childish.
    Also check your privilege! Most adults can afford all consoles is so untrue and unnecessary to even mention.

  20. /!\ My Lusipurr hat is back on. You have been warned. /!\

    1. I neither know or am a troll I am a sometime lurker/reader
    Then I suppose it is merely a coincidence that you are located in the same place as the troll? Maybe I will ban your new account, too. Your rage that a website on the internet disagrees with you about the XBone is hilarious. I mean, seriously, how sad do you have to be–how lonely and empty is your life–that you keep coming back to argue. “Grrrr they disagree with me, I’ll show them!“.

    Instead of dumping your fanboy rage into the internet, it is at that moment that you should be saying to yourself, “Wait a moment. Maybe it is okay that someone, somewhere disagrees with me. Maybe I should do something with my life.”

    (p.s. Most people disagree with you. Typing nonsense into Lusipurr.com isn’t going to change that.)

    2. author of the news article could explain why he writes with such anger!
    He is Australian, and consequently is always angry. Do you read his articles regularly? I don’t think he has ever said anything nice about anyone or anything. We like him that way. If you don’t like it, there are other news sites with more comprehensive coverage waiting for your comments. For a reader, you are surprisingly ill-informed about SiliconNooB’s normal tone.

    3. you think only morons attack consoles
    No. I did not write that. Let me help you. I wrote:
    “I do not need to rush to defend my purchase and claim that they are wrong so that I can feel better about the fact that I own something. What kind of a moron needs to do that?

    I would posit that the kind of moron who needs to do that is the kind of moron who buys a console not because it is a good proposition, but rather because they want to buy into an ideology which they are consequently necessitated to defend at all costs, as if it were a religion and not an electronic gadget that was sitting on a store shelf.”

    In other words: morons attack/defend their consoles as if they were ideological choices necessary to their self-identity rather than consumer products purchased from a profit-driven corporation. You can critique a console for other reasons and not necessarily be a moron.

    4. It does seem you don’t play any AAA games or modern title preferring to hide behind obscure jrpgs and retro games. Your admission you only Netflix on your ps4 tells me that.
    I suppose if one is living under a rock and in defiance of mainstream coverage, one might consider Final Fantasy to be obscure. But then one would be living under a rock. I have quite a few games for my PS4, I just don’t play many of them. My interests are primarily in RPGs and Platformers; we have other staff members who play other kinds of games.

    The indefensible implication that I deliberately choose the genres I like so that I can ‘hide behind’ them is so risible that it doesn’t even deserve a refutation.

    5. I wish gaming was an ideology. Life would be much more fun.
    Do you think the IGN comments section is fun? That is what it looks like when gaming is treated as an ideology. If you like it, please go there instead. I can help you with this by banning you. Let me know if you would like the help. I will take your enforced silence as consent.

    6. Saying people are salty or morons for giving their opinion of something they enjoy and play everyday hardly makes them childish.
    Again, No. That is not what I wrote. I am beginning to suspect you have a comprehension problem. I wrote:

    “The first answer is that being a console fanboy is childish. It is predicated on a notion that console ownership is a zero-sum game–which it is, if one is a child and must rely upon their parents’ generosity to buy them one (1) console and only one (1). Most serious gamer adults have the money to buy all the consoles, so we don’t have to try and make ourselves feel better about not owning the ‘other’ console.”

    You are equivocating. I did not write that ‘giving an opinion is childish’. I wrote that ‘being a console fanboy is childish’. These are not the same thing. If you think they are the same thing, then something is wrong in your brain.

    7. Also check your privilege! Most adults can afford all consoles is so untrue and unnecessary to even mention.
    You may have read my comment when I initially posted it; when I added the formatting, I corrected the statement to ‘most serious gamer adults’ (see above quote).

    Also LOL at you telling me to check my privilege. I should ban you for that alone. This is Lusipurr.com and I am Lusipurr. I don’t have to check my privilege.

  21. Why can’t we banter instead of ban? Everythin I say is taken lightly. It is a great coincidence. Where is it saying I am by the way? (purely intrigued)
    At what point does a positive opinion about something become fanboying? Just so I know in future? I’m scared I might start being a fanboy of bacon. Unsure.
    I understand this is your website just thought you would enjoy a debate/conversation/cheeky banter! Surely more fun and interesting. Perhaps all of this attention is making you insecure hence the banning.

  22. Why can’t we banter instead of ban? Everythin I say is taken lightly. It is a great coincidence.
    I prefer banning. It takes less time.

    At what point does a positive opinion about something become fanboying?
    When it devolves into ad hominems (see above) against those who disagree.

    just thought you would enjoy a debate/conversation/cheeky banter!
    YOU THOUGHT WRONG.

    Perhaps all of this attention is making you insecure
    MUST BE!

    —–

    Folks, Blitzmage and I had a few words about it and I’ve decided to try an EXPERIMENT IN DEMOCRACY!

    That’s right: you can VOTE on what to do with the troll. I’ll even let the troll vote on his fate. Here’s how it works:

    1. You can vote to keep him, ban him, or ban him and delete all of his comments.
    2. Everyone gets one vote, even the troll.
    3. My vote is worth the sum of all other votes plus one.

    Vote now! For DEMOCRACY!

    Tally
    Keep: 1 | Ban: 5 | Ban and Delete: 0

  23. “Check your privilege” is instant ban. Leave his comments so others can see this sort of Tumblr bullshit isn’t welcome here.

  24. @Wolfe: Actually, I thought that was the funniest thing he has said so far!

  25. @Wolfe: At least no one can say that I have not implemented a thoroughly fair and democratic process to decide what will be done.

  26. First I was thinking that the threat of imminent banning could raise the level of future comments… But then I read through the comments again. My job involves writing for a PC hardware website, and this was on the level (tone, content, grammar) of the AMD vs. NVIDIA bullshit that pushes the highest comment totals for any post.

    I vote to ban!

  27. @Sebastian: Oooh, but higher comment totals are a very attractive proposition . . .

  28. Although the quality (and quantity) of Lusipurr’s responses are reason enough to dissuade me from a ‘delete’ vote.

    Owning a console is not an ideological choice. Yes! I could not agree more.

  29. @Sebastian: Alas. We don’t get money for clicks. Otherwise, it would be open season and I’d encourage SN to write utterly provocative pieces in an effort to generate comment-section fury.

    Actually, long-term readers at the site know how we handle any criticism of our content, however fairly/unfairly and seriously/jokingly levelled. Someone once complained about a short poem that I read on the podcast, and we responded by reading a three-hundred page long novel. :)

  30. There really is no “flame war” and no console war etc etc
    What is the point of comments sections than to comment.
    An opinion that isn’t a pat on the back is clearly unwelcome here.
    There is only the tone of the original “news” article reflected and the gang jumping insults afterwards.
    Thanks for leaving the comments as it shows to all potential readers and future commenters that there really is nothing new here.
    Enjoy your vote and banning. And then enjoy going back to the very very few who bother to pat you on the back, nothing more.

  31. There really is no “flame war” and no console war etc etc
    I didn’t expect you to simply start lying. That’s a new twist! Well played, Mr. Deathnotefan. Well played.

    What is the point of comments sections than to comment.
    Why, to VOTE, obviously, ya dingus!

    An opinion that isn’t a pat on the back is clearly unwelcome here.
    Quite the opposite, deathnotefan who definitely isn’t the banned troll nudge nudge wink wink. ;^)

    and the gang jumping insults afterwards
    Hey! Bup blew a creamy load all over his keyboard after reading those comments. That’s hardly an insult!

    Thanks for leaving the comments as it shows to all potential readers and future commenters that there really is nothing new here.
    Anytime! You’re welcome!

    Enjoy your vote and banning.
    Don’t worry–we are! Although so far only two votes have been recorded! Don’t forget to cast your own vote!

    And then enjoy going back to the very very few who bother to pat you on the back, nothing more.
    Whatever you need to tell yourself in order to feel better! Cheer up, matey!

  32. I’m really looking forward to SiliconNooB’s follow-up news post, “Why XBone Owners Are Worse than a Hitler Rapist and Why PS4 Owners Are Heroes Each and Every One.”

  33. Me too. Oh please make him write oh great lusipurr lord and ruler of this website and his masturbatory hand.
    I definitely don’t need to cheer up. Infact I almost wet myself laughing at your reponses.
    You didn’t answer me though. When does liking something become being a fanboy!? I need to know incase I become a fanboy of boobs.
    Also if saying I like my xbone is causing a war, surely it is those who respond angrilly rather than just saying yeah sure that are causing this war.
    I will vote.

  34. Oh please make him write oh great lusipurr lord and ruler of this website and his masturbatory hand.
    Now you’re just being ridiculous. Everyone knows that Australians can’t masturbate!

    Infact I almost wet myself laughing at your reponses.
    Whilst laughing at humour is fine, pissing yourself is not. You may want to speak to your GP if these symptoms continue. They could be a sign of a serious problem.

    You didn’t answer me though. When does liking something become being a fanboy!?
    You see, until now, I only suspected that you had a reading comprehension problem. Now I know that you do, because I answered your question in my reply to your post.

    I need to know incase I become a fanboy of boobs.
    Please see the second picture in the article above. Tell us how it makes you feel.

    Also if saying I like my xbone is causing a war, surely it is those who respond angrilly rather than just saying yeah sure that are causing this war.
    No! Of course it wasn’t you. It was the original troll who got banned–the guy who definitely is not you. Definitely not! You are someone totally different and utterly unrelated to him in any way. As you’ve told us. And we believe you.

    Actually, wait. We Believe You™. There. Now we have a new campaign.

    I will vote.
    I am waiting with bated breath to tabulate your vote which is as valuable as everybody else’s vote (except for mine).

  35. Oh, dear…

    This guy seems to just want to be a contrarian gaslighter.

    I have been a reader of this site for a very long time. I originally used to listen to the RPGcast when Lusipurr worked for RPGamer, and when he left that site, I heard he made his own. Ever since, I would come here for news stories, features, and podcasts, which were/are very well done. The addition of SiliconNoob contributing the news articles a few years ago has been great, in my opinion. When you have sites like IGN licking the teats of game companies which advertise on their sites, and coincidentally end up getting oddly high reviews, real critical editorials become a refreshing alternative. I’m glad that SiliconNoob is willing to hold these bigger companies feet to the fire, so we can get a more realistic look at their business practices. I should note, that he has steadily criticized every console developer when they do drop the ball. Some just happen to do so more than others.

    Keep up the good work, is what I say, and I would like to thank the entire staff, past and present, for years of entertaining news and content!

  36. @Fumunshu: You’re the BEST.

    Really looking to SiliconNooB’s follow-up article on Friday, “Why Fumunshu Is the BEST.”

    I will never stop pissing on Sony for the greedy shitmove that is PSNow, the total and inexplicable failure to make PS1/PS2 classics playable on the PS4, and the chase-the-trend top-grade bullshit that is PlayStation VR. Neither will SN. Once an Australian bites into something, the jaws lock and it can never be removed.

  37. Having listening to the podcast for years and years, and seeing SiliconNooB behavior on twitter, I can say that he is clearly objective in his article, I would dare to say almost restricting himself quite a bit.

    I would have to say that the guy writing and pretending to write in good faith is quite the liar, first pretending to talk about the pro gg and anti sjw (like he actually cared more for the anti sjw to appeal to… something) to later DEMAND to Lusipurr to check his privilege is enough proof for me.

    Being an argentino, living in argentina with my ability to get a ps4 or wiiU or an xbone almost non existent, (thanks to my dear leader cristina kirchner
    whose president mandate is almost finished , yay)I find the idea of checking someones privilege incredible retarded.

    May the ban hammer of Thor used by lusipurr have mercy in his troll soul!!!!

    vote to ban

  38. @Ferchu; I, too, admire SN’s restraint and equanimity. His serene and even-tempered approach to the news of the day is a comfort to us all.

    Really looking forward to SN’s follow-up post on Friday, “Why President Kircher Should Be Rated NC-17 by the ESRB.”

  39. @Fumunshu:

    I used to listen to RPGcast too! I know Lusipurr, Ethos and the montok (their existence more than anything xD) from there, ¨there is no exploration in metroid¨ and the “Lusipurr and Metaridley’s Entirely Unscripted Video Game Podcast Extravaganza!¨ have to be among my favorites episodes :D .

    I was so happy when I heard about Lusi making this site because the RPGcast after those 3 going away wasn’t the same in quality =/

    I agree with Fumunshu: Keep up the good work and may we have more news about futures fable games! ;D

  40. @Ferchu: may we have more news about futures fable games!

    Sadly, this is a real thing that is happening.

  41. For what it’s worth I vote to keep the troll – it is way too much fun editing his comments! ^_^

  42. I act out the human centipede at home. You should review it.
    [Edited for clarity. -Lusi]

  43. Umm, they were “kissing ass” in that movie. Their mouths were attached to another persons asshole. Get your facts straight n00b.

  44. Here is a strange phenomena, a friend of mine got an Xone, because he really liked his 360 and Halo etc, but he had to drop it for a PS4 because all of his friends got a PS4. Since these proprietary networks can “absolutely not” share users a lot of people sway to one console of a generation because of the want to be on the network their friends are on. So all those millions of 360 users won’t just go get an Xone if their buddies are playing CoD on PS4. Now if they all knew what was good for them, they’d realize that the real men are on the PC, but whatever.

  45. I am now bored with Democracy, so the polls are closed. BAN wins. Ta da!

  46. This is my favourite deathnotefan memory: “with direct x12 on its way the xbone should come into it’s own.”

    Convinced to the very end that Xbone contains secret sauce, despite the fact that dx12’s only use to gaming is that it will make programming for the PC more like programming for the API that is already in use by the Xbone. I can see this making a world of difference, sport! ^_^

  47. I vote we don’t ban this person.

    Also, maybe we SHOULD start reviewing films…

  48. A momentary diversion from the misery of day to day life, that’s what.

  49. @Lane: Remember those really awful Objectivist trolls we used to get on the Philosophy community (and sometimes even Real_Philosophy)? It’s that, but worse.

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