TSM Episode 474: Silent Seas

We were the first that ever burst / Into that silent sea. // Down dropped the breeze, the sails dropped down,/ 'Twas sad as sad could be; / And we did speak only to break / The silence of the sea!

Ahoy there! ‘Tis H.M.S Content! Away she sails! Avast! Avast!!

Download Link: Released 2018.03.26

Ahoy there! Lusipurr, Durga, and SiliconNooB start off the spring with a review of news from GDC 2018, including a lack of booty in Sea of Thieves, the release of an even-more-expensive HTC Vive headset, and the dampened expectations for the Atari VCS.

16 comments on “TSM Episode 474: Silent Seas”

  1. I’ve talked with a few people who played the Sea of Thieves beta and none of them could tell me what the end game was. I mostly got the dumb expressions of people who didn’t understand the question.

  2. I have a Wii that I want to convert into an emulation box. I always procrastinate getting around to it and just use my PC to emulate. It should be noted that i does not have an HDMI out so you will need a converter.

  3. There was a name difference between regions. In Japan, Dr. Eggman was the name, but was changed in the West to Dr. Robotnik. If you watch some of the Japanese Sonic commercials from the 90s, you’ll hear them call Robotnik “Dr. Eggman”. When Sonic Adventure was released, Sega decided to make the name the same in all territories. The nickname “Eggman” also comes from this game, when upon Robotnik’s first appearance, Sonic says to Tails “Hey, look! it’s a giant talking egg!”

    This new Sonic backstory is interesting, there’s also the original “Sonic Bible” published by Sega of America, which originally said Sonic is from Nebraska, later to be switched to Mobius. Sonic’s love of chili dogs is from this document as well, although it was originally “fast food”. There’s also another Sonic backstory that said he was originally Robotnik’s pet, when he was named “Dr. Kintobor”. The Chaos Emeralds apparently drove him crazy and sent him down his path of robotizing animals (leading to the name change of “Robotnik”.) Of course Japan also had their own backstory, with Sonic being in a rock band with a girlfriend named (no joke) Madonna. If you also look up some of Sonic’s original art, he also had fangs. Sega of America changed a lot of Sonic’s design in the West, which was why for many years, Sonic was more popular in the West than in Japan.

  4. I remember the Sonic is Dr. Kintobar’s pet story; I have an old Sega magazine with a comic about that.

    Wii emulation is great fun, but I use it through A/V cables and the visuals are noticeably worse for it. Would a HDMI converter help that, or is it just used for the connection?

  5. The Wii supports component out (not just composite Y/R/W) cables. Nintendo made their own, which I have, and which are now becoming a little expensive (~$20-30?), but you can buy a Monoprice version for virtually nothing and they work just fine. With the Component cables in use, you can change the settings in Wii system settings to HD instead of SD and the result is crisp.

    This is also, by the way, a MUCH better way to do things than to buy a Gamecube and the INSANELY priced component cables for that system. You can play GCN games on a Wii, and the Component cables cost virtually nothing for that system.

    (If your TV/receiver don’t have at least one set of component in options (I have a brand-new Samsung TV and Sony receiver and they both have several), you can buy a component to HDMI converter, which will cost you about $20. I use one for streaming because my El Gato model accepts HDMI only.)

  6. Wii emulation is great fun, but I use it through A/V cables and the visuals are noticeably worse for it. Would a HDMI converter help that, or is it just used for the connection?

    You don’t have component cables for your Wii?

    As Lusipurr says, if your TV has component inputs then you should just use component cables and set your console to progressive scan. If your TV doesn’t have component inputs then you will still need to buy a component cable and then run it through a component to hdmi converter – but introducing hdmi into the mix will not improve the picture beyond what is possible through component cables, and the picture may in fact be a little degraded due to an extra step being added in the processing of the signal.

    This is also, by the way, a MUCH better way to do things than to buy a Gamecube and the INSANELY priced component cables for that system.

    @Lusi – There is actually a much better third party option available now. There is an affordable hdmi converter which you can plug directly into the back of a gamecube, and which yields results that are similar to the gamecube component cables [which are a lot better than the Wii component cables].

  7. Uh oh, it looks like SN’s been into the Easter tipple cabinet…

    the gamecube component cables [which are a lot better than the Wii component cables].

    LOL No. There is almost no effective difference between Wii and GC component cables–and certainly neither is ‘a lot better than” the other. This topic has been debated to death many times elsewhere, but the difference largely boils down to individual perception (which probably means it has to do with the telvision being used more than anything else). Some people *believe* there is a very minor difference in sharpness as a result of analogue to digital conversion, but having actually and legitimately used them side-by-side for several years, there is effectively no meaningful perceptible difference on a modern television set, as you would expect given that each system is outputting the same 480p signal along the same component hardware.

    There is actually a much better third party option available now. There is an affordable hdmi converter which you can plug directly into the back of a gamecube

    These produce results that are exactly the same as set of component cables. They are not a ‘much better’ option, and they are not comparatively affordable either.

    introducing hdmi into the mix will not improve the picture beyond what is possible through component cables, and the picture may in fact be a little degraded due to an extra step being added in the processing of the signal.

    I think SN is basing his comment today on stuff he read on forums back in 2004! These days, (given the supported proliferation of game streaming) you’d have to buy a pretty terrible hdmi converter for this to be the case, as virtually every solution available these days is powered and effectively lossless. Most of them come from China, so don’t expect exceptional device longevity, but unless you get a dud unit you’re not going to see any difference. If you have component inputs, you should just use those because then you won’t have to shell out the $20 for a converter box, but if you set up a converter you won’t have an issue: all of our streaming hosts use them to stream from older devices, whether it’s a PS3 (where component is how one bypasses HDMI-CP), or a Wii (where component is the ‘HD’ option).

  8. These produce results that are exactly the same as set of component cables. They are not a ‘much better’ option, and they are not comparatively affordable either.

    ??? Buying an affordable hdmi converter with comparable performance isn’t a much better option than paying several hundred dollars for GC component cables?

    I think SN is basing his comment today on stuff he read on forums back in 2004! These days, (given the supported proliferation of game streaming) you’d have to buy a pretty terrible hdmi converter for this to be the case, as virtually every solution available these days is powered and effectively lossless.

    I used the word ‘may’, which is not a definitive statement. I’m basing this on the fact that in some instances this kind of daisy chaining of output options requires an RGB signal to be converted into sync on luma, or vice versa – though this ‘may’ not be the case depending on what kind of signal the Wii outputs. At any rate it would only make a very slight difference.

    The SNES and GC output RGB scart and I had to run the cable through a processing box to convert the signal to sync on luma [if I remember correctly] before my TV would recognise it through component cables. Theoretically there is some very minor visual information which is lost when doing this, but it still looks pretty nice. My point was just that it is better not to introduce an unnecessary step to your setup if you don’t have to.

  9. ??? Buying an affordable hdmi converter with comparable performance isn’t a much better option than paying several hundred dollars for GC component cables?

    Wii component cables. We’re talking about Wii vs GC. No more Easter-brew for you!

    AND AREN’T YOU SUPPOSED TO BE ON WALKABOUT? Get your didgeridoo and get to work on your community service, CheaterRoo!

  10. Wii component cables. We’re talking about Wii vs GC. No more Easter-brew for you!

    I don’t understand.

  11. @SN: I don’t understand.

    That much is evident. The original comment (#6) to which you responded reads:

    [Using a Wii] is also, by the way, a MUCH better way to do things than to buy a Gamecube and the INSANELY priced component cables for that system. You can play GCN games on a Wii, and the Component cables cost virtually nothing for that system.

    To which you replied (#7):

    There is actually a much better third party option available now. There is an affordable hdmi converter which you can plug directly into the back of a gamecube, and which yields results that are similar to the gamecube component cables [which are a lot better than the Wii component cables].

    When I pointed out in my reply (#8) that (1) GCN cables are not ‘a lot better’ than Wii component cables, and that (2) the GC HDMI adapter is not comparatively ‘affordable’ (the HDMI adapter by itself is $150 for which price you can buy two (!) complete Wii systems, controllers, doo-dads, and component cables inclusive) your reply (#9) was:

    ??? Buying an affordable hdmi converter with comparable performance isn’t a much better option than paying several hundred dollars for GC component cables?

    No, it isn’t a better option than using a Wii (the comment to which you were replying). And it’s only marginally better than buying GC gamecube cables which can occasionally be found on eBay for $150 (the same price as the adapter; in fact, there’s one up now at that price although they usually trend around $200).

    The whole point of my comment to which you responded was that using a Wii to play GCN games at 480p is more cost-effective than using a GCN with a component cable, and that is true regardless of whether one is using $200 Nintendo component cables or the ‘affordable’ $150 third-party HDMI adapter.

  12. No, it isn’t a better option than using a Wii

    I never said that it was a better option than the Wii [the GC can’t play Wii games, so any pros and cons of its av output are moot in the context of Matt’s original question]. You pointed out that component cables for the GC were insanely priced, and I pointed out that there was a better option these days. The cheapest GC component cables that I can find on ebay are $370 AU, so the hdmi adapter is a much more convenient option these days.

    You have literally been arguing against something that I didn’t say.

  13. @S’Noob: You have literally been arguing against something that I didn’t say.

    Except that you did respond (and quoted) me saying that using a Wii is a better way to do things in comment #7 above. If you weren’t addressing that claim, then you shouldn’t have quoted the claim and replied. Once you did that, any reasonable person will understand you as trying to refute the claim you were quoting (rather than making some other, unrelated, ancillary claim). Hence any subsequent fault for misunderstanding lies with you. If all you wanted to do was address the price, then there was no need to include the comparative claim as well. Q.E.D.

    Nor was that the only claim you made, as you well know, and so I have also been addressing those claims (which you very much did write, despite the attempt to rhetorically SANDPAPER away those other statements).

    Addendum: Wasn’t your post due fifteen hours ago? Stop losing arguments with me and get to work! You can further injure yourself on the field of debate after your post is live! ;)

  14. I only attempted to make a very minor point about the GC having better options these days, and ever since I have been WTFing at the walls of text you’ve been writing.

    You just jumped to a conclusion and made yourself grumpy for no reason.

  15. @S’NooB If you quote a claim and then respond with something phrased as a rebuttal, you should not be surprised to find your response interpreted as a rebuttal. That’s not ‘jumping to conclusions’ on the part of your reader; it’s addressing something as written.

    Proposed solution: Don’t quote and then address in the form of a rebuttal claims which you are not actually refuting.

    No more comments until your post is live! I mean it! I’ll delete them! You can argue with me AFTER your work is done.

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